#1 
Guest_kaleum_*
- Guests
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:07 PM
Sorry to waste your time,
Has anyone EVER had success with this diet? It seems to get shut down in most articles about it.
I've been basically living this way with some grains and veggies here and there (and LOTS of caffeine) and, long story short, I've never craved death for any reason other than mental problems... until this point. It's horrible.
(Again sorry, I post way too often and it probably gets annoying)
#3
- Accountability access
- 2930 posts
Omniscient
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:15 PM
think of all the shit you're missing from your diet - there's a reason ED's and depression are generally comorbid (i don't know a single perosn with an ED who isn't depressed)
protein, for one - pretty sure that's not in fruits
various vitamins
your b12 is probably low as shit - which easily leads to health problems
#4 Guest_kaleum_*
- Guests
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:35 PM
stillstarving09.2, on 20 Jun 2017 - 5:11 PM, said:
Well...it's not a diet. I think using it as a diet would not work out very well since the motivation behind fruitarianism is more powerful than losing weight. Usually it's moral/spiritual in nature.
Valid point. I just wonder how people sustain it.
#5 Guest_kaleum_*
- Guests
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:38 PM
prettymadness, on 20 Jun 2017 - 5:15 PM, said:
think of all the shit you're missing from your diet - there's a reason ED's and depression are generally comorbid (i don't know a single perosn with an ED who isn't depressed)
protein, for one - pretty sure that's not in fruits
various vitamins
your b12 is probably low as shit - which easily leads to health problems
I mean, you're right on the money on all those points. Not having a multivitamin has been hellish recently.
Then again, I deserve the suffrage, so I'm kind of down to continue.
#6 Guest_Stillstanding09.2_*
- Guests
Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:42 PM
kaleum, on 20 Jun 2017 - 5:35 PM, said:
Valid point. I just wonder how people sustain it.
Honestly, a lot of them are isolated from the world and have removed themselves from society in general. The hardcore fruitarians I know of came to it on their own w/out knowing the name for their lifestyle which is kind of incredible, but I think the general appeal is in not killing plants (or anything). A couple have said they are low on B12 and stuff but I guess they don't care too much or don't have bad side effects or w/e. A point I heard someone make that I thought was pretty good is that labwork for vitamins is based on the standard american diet (or standard western diet) and humans have lived on lots of extreme diets (shifted heavily toward one macronutrient) for a lot of human history. So there's that aspect of it.
#7
- Members
- 1501 posts
Advanced Sage
Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:11 AM
prettymadness, on 20 Jun 2017 - 5:15 PM, said:
think of all the shit you're missing from your diet - there's a reason ED's and depression are generally comorbid (i don't know a single perosn with an ED who isn't depressed)
protein, for one - pretty sure that's not in fruits
various vitamins
your b12 is probably low as shit - which easily leads to health problems
You can find everything besides B12 and D3 in fruits. Sure, you must take B12 supplements even on simple veganism, but D3 is not necessary until you live in not so sunny place, because sun is the best source of this one. Protein in fruits varies, but usual amount is about 6% and as long as you eat enough calories, you absolutely can get the proper amount. And don't get scared by calcium, becuase it's about how much you lose, not take (and milk for example cause lost of it, so it's common to have osteoporosis drinking lots of it).
So yeah, it's possible, but I wouldn't try to stick with it with an eating disorder, becuase it's highly doubtful someone can get enough not eating enough on this diet and let's be honest, we have problem with eating, ok, this is a lifestyle, not just a quick weight-loss programme. I would try to go vegan first, then raw till 4, then maybe completely raw and at the end try fruitaranism, you should observe if you can get nutrients on the easier ones.
- FloatingDaisy likes this
- Like This
#8
- Members
- 214 posts
Warrior
Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:41 AM
I've tried it, it is a good way to loose weight. I used to buy fruits in bulk. But it was super hard maintain and expensive. Most people don't do it for long. But it is a good way to loose weight. Don't worry about the "spiritual" side of it, it has a cult like thing going on, but you can do it just to lose weight.
I don't believe in it, that it's the right way to eat, but for short term weight loss sure.
#9
- Members
- 2271 posts
Advanced Sage
- LocationFlorida
Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:11 AM
#10 Guest_Stillstanding09.2_*
- Guests
Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:32 AM
Kirraisnotdead, on 21 Jun 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:
I tried this off and on throughout my veganism. I found it impossible to stay under 2000 cals a day because fruit is so low in satiety. By the end of most days I'd have taken in more calories than I could burn and craved every damn thing that was NOT a fruit. I gave it up and returned (sadly) to an omnivorous diet. I still find the fruitarian lifestyle fascinating and often read articles on the subject and have come to the conclusion that it may be that most fruits are made up of fructose and glucose. I've read fructose provides no satiety and in excess can cause you to store fat. I did gain on this lifestyle but not as much as you would expect looking at the numbers. All in all I now try to just eat what I'm craving within my calorie limit and while I'm still hungry I'm not feeling as deprived and my weight is constantly dropping. I was drawn to fruitarianism by the thought of purity and not being able to imagine a fruit only diet causing weight gain. I developed a fear of all other foods and believed fruit was the only true edible thing. It was expensive too. The upside though was beautiful skin, very regular bm and absolutely no bodily odors. I miss that part and sometimes I consider doing a fruit day for those benefits alone. Also I found the weight I gained from fruit dropped off quick when I got a handle on my calories and a calorie deficit on any diet has always made me lose. Not sure if any of this is even remotely helpful I'm just recalling my experience the best I can. Take care
This was basically my experience although I didn't give fruitarianism as good a shot as you did. I find that without one cooked meal of grains, I have binge urges. I'm also fascinated by fruitarianism if you ever want to chat more about it. I'm trying to learn more about Eden fruitarianism now, where they're trying to recreate the garden of Eden on earth. Incredibly idealistic but I'm very drawn to it.
#11
- Members
- 2271 posts
Advanced Sage
- LocationFlorida
Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:23 PM
stillstarving09.2, on 21 Jun 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:
that's interesting, I actually was very drawn to the lifestyle because of the account in Genesis on creation and the food God told man to eat (fruit) but that was before sin and death entered the world and mankind became "cursed" I feel like undefiled man's needs could be completely met by fruit but somewhere in that change we suffered deficiency caused by a newly fallen state. I have a religious background and often ponder this. I didn't include it in my post so as not to be controversial but that's some of my own reasoning. Hope that doesn't sound too odd hahaThis was basically my experience although I didn't give fruitarianism as good a shot as you did. I find that without one cooked meal of grains, I have binge urges. I'm also fascinated by fruitarianism if you ever want to chat more about it. I'm trying to learn more about Eden fruitarianism now, where they're trying to recreate the garden of Eden on earth. Incredibly idealistic but I'm very drawn to it.
- ashinthislife likes this
- Like This
#12 Guest_Stillstanding09.2_*
- Guests
Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:58 PM
Kirraisnotdead, on 21 Jun 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:
that's interesting, I actually was very drawn to the lifestyle because of the account in Genesis on creation and the food God told man to eat (fruit) but that was before sin and death entered the world and mankind became "cursed" I feel like undefiled man's needs could be completely met by fruit but somewhere in that change we suffered deficiency caused by a newly fallen state. I have a religious background and often ponder this. I didn't include it in my post so as not to be controversial but that's some of my own reasoning. Hope that doesn't sound too odd haha
Not odd at all. I hadn't heard that perspective before about the fall causing nutritional needs that can now be met by eating animals and non-fruit, but I like that a lot. I'm religious too but I'm not sure where I stand on whether or not God intends for us to eat animals. I try and make as many meals as possible vegan. I think spiritual veganism tends to be rare but I like this way very much.
#13
- Members
- 2271 posts
Advanced Sage
- LocationFlorida
Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:51 PM
stillstarving09.2, on 21 Jun 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:
it's definitely an interesting train of thought.Not odd at all. I hadn't heard that perspective before about the fall causing nutritional needs that can now be met by eating animals and non-fruit, but I like that a lot. I'm religious too but I'm not sure where I stand on whether or not God intends for us to eat animals. I try and make as many meals as possible vegan. I think spiritual veganism tends to be rare but I like this way very much.
#14
- Members
- 439 posts
Advanced Warrior
Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:48 AM
#15
- Members
- 228 posts
Warrior
Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:06 AM
And as far as religion goes, there was no killing of any kind in the garden of eden. After the fall of man sin was in the world and man would kill something and animals are viewed lesser than man in the Bible and pretty much every where else. Plus they were in sin. There wasn’t alcohol or anything else before sin so in a perfect world we were never meant to eat animals and I feel like not eating them isn’t truly a spiritual experience. And to clarity I am not religious. I am a spiritual person that has studied many walks of faith. I find divinity in all things. God is a light and a source of incredible positive energy. Evil is the negative. We get back what we feed it. So by taking in animals that are dead we are feeding that negative energy and in turn making ourselves ill and everyone is so blind to it. We have been so brainwashed. This is why I don’t have any form of social media except for this, I don’t own television and I dont have internet at my house. It’s very freeing. But I do care about the people on here and I try to get on here every once in awhile.
- YoungCatLady likes this
- Like This
#16
- Members
- 228 posts
Warrior
Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:14 AM
Do it even if you don’t want to. After about a month of doing it you’ll believe in yourself. At least a little. But you have to start somewhere.
No comments:
Post a Comment